Emma Mackey and Fiona Shaw interview: On Rebecca Lenkiewicz’s ‘Hot Milk’ and memories of Maarva Andor

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In Rebecca Lenkiewicz’s Hot Milk, tailored from Deborah Levy’s eponymous novel, a sun-drenched coastal city in Spain turns into a crucible for a mom and daughter weighed down by histories of sickness, silence, and love. British-French actress and Sex Education breakout star Emma Mackey performs Sofia, a younger girl tethered to her mom’s mysterious incapacity, whereas the seasoned Irish actress, Fiona Shaw takes on Rose, the querulous matriarch whose ailment appears to straddle the bodily and psychological. Together, their performances map out a tense, claustrophobic intimacy that feels common.

Both actors appear acutely conscious of the paradox of love and entrapment usually sharing the identical breath. For Emma, the pull of Sofia was instinctive. “I have a mother, I’m a daughter, so part of reality always comes in. But this is so charged. I don’t know what it’s like to care for someone around the clock, to base your life on your mother’s needs — not just out of love, but necessity.” That necessity, she says, was the function’s axis. “It’s fascinating to explore two strong-headed women forced to coexist.”

Fiona, who has performed matriarchs of all stripes, relished the possibility to embody Rose’s restraint, the way in which she conceals harm beneath barbs and silence. “It was fantastic to play someone who cannot express what they want, has no capacity to express it, and instead says other things that have nothing to do with what’s going on. It was really refreshing and I don’t think I’ve ever played anything like it.” She chuckles, “Much easier actually, to give a speech.”

She’s referring, nearly offhandedly, to the fiery eulogy in Andor’s first season finale, the place her character Maarva (already useless) rises in holographic type to evoke Ferrix towards the Empire. It’s one of the present’s most indelible passages that marries private grief to collective revolt. But in Hot Milk, Fiona is enjoying the alternative. Here, she’s a girl whose language is evasive, damaged, and misaligned along with her inside life. Where Maarva’s voice galvanised a group, Rose’s silence tightens the noose round her daughter.

A still from ‘Hot Milk’

A nonetheless from ‘Hot Milk’
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If Fiona speaks of silence, Emma speaks of pull. Much of Sofia’s life is outlined by being pulled towards her mom, towards an affair, and towards the shadow of her estranged father. Her relationship with Vicky Krieps’ Ingrid turns into one other check of floor and gravity. “She [Vicky] brings you into her world immediately, and it’s so pure,” Emma says. “But you never really know if Ingrid is telling the truth. You hope something will come of it, but it feels like it’s disappearing into dust.” That sense of precariousness fed instantly into her course of. “I loved the feeling of being pulled into these women’s lives and having to make sense of it through them.”

When requested to rank her favourites among the many maternal figures she’s performed on display screen, Fiona smiles when reminded of her personal revolutionary matriarch in Andor. “That was very well written. If characters are well written, you can flesh them out and be disciplined by the writing.” With Rose, although, the duty shifted. “I enjoyed not being responsible for the scenes. In a way, Emma was always responsible.”

Mackey pushes again with affection. “I feel like you were responsible for so much.”

Fiona laughs. “No, I just had to say, ‘More water,’ and you were like, ‘More water!’” But she additionally recollects how she was “quite frightened” throughout sure shoots. “One or two scenes were very difficult. I wasn’t sure I would get there on that day, and we had no time to try again tomorrow. You had to get it, and you did.”

A still from ‘Hot Milk’

A nonetheless from ‘Hot Milk’
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MUBI

If their relationship feels claustrophobic on display screen, the actors insist the surroundings cracked it open. Fiona remembers the wind. “The wind was very much in her [Emma’s] scenes, on the beach. You felt the agitation of nature all the time.” Emma nods. “It’s such a character and such a part of everything reaching boiling points — the heat, water, salt, everything seeping into every crack of a person until it becomes, okay, I have to release this now.”

Fiona distills it additional. “It’s where British people go to be free,” she jokes, and each dissolve into laughter.

The movie can also be thick with symbolism of medusas (the jellyfish, not the Greek fable), the ocean, and the sweltering warmth. Asked what animal Sofia may embody, Fiona leaps in. “Dolphin.” Then, reconsidering, she alludes to the significantly distressed German Shepherd that options within the movie: “Or an Alsatian that’s tied up.” Mackey’s eyes gentle up when making the connection. “Yes. The dog that wants to be free, wants to bark and shout, but doesn’t know how until someone breaks the chain.” She grins. “Look at us finding symbolism everywhere.”

Hot Milk is presently streaming on MUBI

Published – August 26, 2025 10:34 am IST

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