When EU overseas ministers meet, their agenda usually reads like a world atlas. There are dizzying lists of statements and actions to log out on, and factors to deal with about each nook of the globe — and far time is normally eaten up in negotiations to cajole 27 states right into a unanimous place.But a few instances a yr, ministers put their heads collectively at “informal” talks — so-called not as a result of they ditch the fits and present up in denims, however as a result of no official selections might be taken.The thought? Leave area for reflections and discussions that fall via the cracks of each day enterprise.EU diplomats described the weekend talks within the Danish capital as a “brainstorming” session on what comes subsequent within the bloc’s assist for Ukraine. Despite weeks of frenetic diplomacy, Ukrainians stay below assault, and Europe stays deeply skeptical of Russia’s want for peace.Here are a few of the concepts that have been floated this weekend in Copenhagen.First trace of secondary sanctions: The EU’s prime diplomat Kaja Kallas instructed reporters that ministers mulled so-called secondary sanctions — restrictions focusing on Russia’s buying and selling companions.The European Union has already sanctioned some entities, together with Chinese banks, it accuses of serving to Russia finance its warfare, however broader secondary sanctions might be a extra impactful — and extra dangerous — transfer for Europe because it seeks extra associates on the worldwide stage and new commerce offers with the likes of India.Lithuanian Defense Minister Dovile Sakaliene additionally warned that solely secondary sanctions imposed by the United States would “really produce enough pain for the Russian war machine.”European measures “would be nice too,” she instructed DW, however added: “It’s a difference of having a really nuclear effect. Nobody in the world wants to feel secondary sanctions of the United States. That would be a game-changer.”‘Safe haven:’ Ukrainian arms made on EU soilIn a first-of-its-kind operation, Denmark introduced it is going to, “some weeks from now,” invite a Ukrainian arms firm to begin manufacturing on Danish soil.Danish Defense Minister Troels Lund Poulsen mentioned the location might be up and working this yr, although didn’t share particulars on which weapons could be made there.“I also expect that more Ukrainian defense companies will follow later this year,” he added.Kaja Kallas mentioned different international locations have been additionally desirous about bringing the Ukrainian protection business to their soil via related schemes.Part of the thought, in accordance to diplomats talking on the sidelines of the Copenhagen talks, is to present Russia that even because it targets Ukrainian arms factories contained in the nation, extra websites will hold popping up elsewhere within the “safe haven” of the EU.Thawing debate on frozen Russian property: There was additionally a heated debate on what to do with roughly €200 billion ($233 billion) in Russian central financial institution property frozen within the EU in 2022. Until now, EU states have opted to skim off the curiosity accrued on the property and use it to assist Ukraine.A variety of EU international locations, together with the Baltic states and Poland, have lengthy pushed for the property themselves to be seized and handed over to Ukraine.Political scientist Christine Nissen mentioned that might mark a “turning point.”But fellow EU member Belgium is staunchly towards seizure, warning it might be each unlawful and will scare future traders away from Europe.“The argument is that it would simply be also us actually going against some of the principles of that liberal order that we believe in,” Nissen, an analyst with Think Tank Europa, instructed DW.Kallas appeared to push back on these considerations on Saturday. “Financial markets did not react when we froze the assets. Financial markets are calm now as we discuss this,” she mentioned. “There are risks, but I’m confident that we are able to mitigate those risks.”“One thing is absolutely clear,” Kallas added. “Given the devastation Russia is causing in Ukraine and has caused in Ukraine so far, it is unthinkable that Russia will ever see this money again unless it fully compensates Ukraine.”For now, the EU could contemplate shifting the property into extra dangerous investments to beef up the quantity obtainable if the warfare ends.EU navy trainers inside Ukraine?Kallas additionally mentioned there was “broad support” for a plan to shift the EU’s present coaching mission for Ukrainian troops — hosted primarily in Poland and Germany — onto Ukrainian soil within the occasion of a ceasefire.But with no precise truce in sight, Kallas acknowledged that this was a “chicken and egg issue.”“Some are saying that we should do it after, but we can also do it conditionally,” she defined, suggesting member states pursue an settlement now on a change that would kick in at a later date.But the plan might also get snagged on EU unanimity guidelines — with Hungary often delaying selections on assist for Ukraine. Still, Sakaliene instructed DW that the proposal is “much closer to conclusion than other difficult decisions.”Beyond sanctions: Tariffs on Russian items: Finnish Foreign Minister Elina Valtonen, in the meantime, instructed DW she wished to see a “comprehensive tariff scheme against Russian products, but also secondary imports into the European Union.”Though the EU has banned imports of a slew of Russian exports from coal and cement to diamonds, Valtonen needs to hike duties on Russian items that enter the bloc legally.Moves to impose or carry tariffs don’t require backing from all EU member states, making them much less inclined to get caught within the bloc’s inside decionmaking processes.Not so quick: Few within the EU suppose these measures may change the course of the warfare in a single day, and critics accuse Europe of dragging its ft on extra politically delicate choices, like rushing up its plans to ban all Russian fossil gas imports.“What is important,” analyst Nissen instructed DW, “is that they at least keep the European unity on how to deal with this war that means so much for Ukraine’s future and also, obviously, Europe’s future.”